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10/18/2019 2:37 PM
Eth Nat Yirg Idido roasted yesterday. I dropped some off at a friends coffee shop. In a few days he will brew it and tell me what he thinks. We believe my roasts are better than what we buy.

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Where to get budget greens
ginny
Bob-o-link is usually a blend of different beans...hence the different size etc of the beans. I often wonder what some beans are "up for auction."

It is clear a way to get ride of what is not selling or older beans.

I buy from many different place but if a seller cannot tell me when the bean was harvested they can keep them...

My money goes to the seller big or small who will graciously give me/or one who posts the information about any beans they sell.

It is a buyer beware when you buy a batch that you have no real information about.

When I email them on the bean age or self life they said quote "If you store them properly -- they are good for 3-6 months." Ok.


while the above is quite true it still tells you NOTHING about the real age of that bean and as far as I am concerned that is bad business and I would not deal with them unless the beans I buy have information attached.

That's just me and how I buy beans. If you look around the net for suppliers to home roasters for greens there are hundreds now and unless you have some frame of reference from another roaster or about a particular bean it can be a crap shoot.

Let's put out a call to members again for their favorite places to buy either a pound or two or in bulk.

thanks for you post,

ginny


rockon
 
snwcmpr
I get Bob-O-Link from Red Harvest (A Member Here) in Greenville, SC. I am very happy with it. I don't bid, I get fresh, maybe the auction was old stock.
And I buy from my local roaster, I think he gets most from Inter American & Brasc.
I also get beans from SM, of course.

Ken in NC
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Backwoods Roaster
"I wish I could taste as well as I wish I could roast."

As Abraham Lincoln said "Do not trust everything you read on the internet".
 
JimH
The green bean supplier you choose should be influenced by the way you buy and consume your coffee. Do you buy 20 pounds of the same coffee and want to maximize the quality of that one bean? Do you want to drink a different coffee every day and never buy more than 2 pounds of the same one? Do you want to experiment with different roasts, or would you rather someone gave you a suggested roast and a description of what to expect? Do you want to buy the same coffees every year, or buy whatever is tasting good this year?
Answering those questions will tell you who best fits your needs.

Sweet Maria's is great with descriptions and suggested roasts. If I were buying 10 pounds purely on the description given, SM is the place to buy. Also, they buy whatever is good this year, and frequently in quantities small enough to sell out quickly.

Burman usually has slightly lower prices and carries the same beans year after year, but the descriptions are a little spotty. Another positive is that Gary Burman seems to choose pretty well, just like SM. You will rarely get a bean that is truly disappointing.

If you want auction lot coffees, Roastmasters is the place. They go out to get some great coffees, but they price them accordingly. Their descriptions also seem to be very accurate, a major plus in my book when I'm paying $15 a pound.

I recently tried Bodhi Leaf, and I was pleased with the experience. The lack of description is a little off-putting, but they really seem more about selling in quantity than at the retail level. I decided to buy a single pound of 13 different coffees, and only reorder in larger quantities on the ones I liked. Out of the 13, 2 were great values, 3 were very good, 5 were average, 2 were bland and disappointing, and 1 was defective. The 2 that were great values were only about $4.50 a pound, so I'll be happy to order in larger quantities.

I've tried others but these are the ones I always seem to go back to. There are some I haven't tried yet, usually because their websites are hard to navigate or their prices seem unreasonable. A couple I have tried and was too disappointed to ever go back, at some point quality gets so low that it isn't worth paying anything for the beans. A couple are on the list to try when I get a chance, so please don't infer that if I didn't mention it, it must be bad.
 
MassWineGuy
I just won 16 pounds of Bodhi Leaf's El Salvador Honey Bourbon beans on eBay for $2.57 a pound shipped. I'll let you know how they taste once I roast some up.
 
JimH
They had more than one lot of the El Salvador Honey Bourbon. The one I tried tasted best (for me) with a relatively long time between 300f and beginning of first crack, finishing fairly quickly between city and city+. It had some great sweetness and very rounded stone-fruit flavors. Make sure not to rush it, my fastest roast was definitely my worst.
 
MassWineGuy
I'll do what I can with the temperatures given the limitations of my Poppery. Is that what tilting the roaster is for, prolonging the roast times?
 
JimH
With an unmodified popper there are a few things you can do to slow the roast. Tilting is one, stirring is another, both of these improve movement and allow more air to get past, slowing the roast and reducing scorching. Using a smaller batch will also help. You can combine these things with use of an extension cord. Best idea is to separate the heat from the fan in the popper, giving you separate control of air volume and heat. But that would be a discussion for another day...
 
ginny
Hey Wine Guy:

would you please post this popper stuff over in the popper forum, it will get lost here or other conversations will get lost and it can be confusing for new members.

http://forum.home...rum_id=121

thanks,

ginny
 
yantacaw
JimH wrote:


Sweet Maria's is great with descriptions and suggested roasts. If I were buying 10 pounds purely on the description given, SM is the place to buy. Also, they buy whatever is good this year, and frequently in quantities small enough to sell out quickly.

Burman usually has slightly lower prices and carries the same beans year after year, but the descriptions are a little spotty. Another positive is that Gary Burman seems to choose pretty well, just like SM. You will rarely get a bean that is truly disappointing.
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jim, these are the two i most often buy from but it seems to me that with sm and burman have been coming much closer to meeting around the same price point - especially when buying at the 5# amount from sm. this makes it harder to justify buying as much from burman although they certainly have some great newsletter specials at the right price point. like you, i have never been disappointed with burman selections and can appreciate a certain consistency on that front. while i don't always get the flavors referenced in sm reviews, i have certainly had some dazzling beans come from them. i have also bought from happy mug and had good results with their ethio and yemens. i wish that they were more upfront in their descriptions of the crop year on the beans, however.

i haven't tried bodhi leaf. could you tell me which coffees really knocked you out?
 
JimH
I find myself agreeing with you that SM and Burman seem to be converging a bit on price. Partly it's because Burman raised their prices less when the C market spiked, which I definitely appreciated. SM has gotten back to their pre-spike prices, and the price differential is more than made up for by their superior information.

I purposefully didn't include the names of the beans that I thought were really good values because they go out of stock so quickly. More than half of the beans I tried 4 months ago aren't available anymore. The two I thought were the best values were from Guatemala, the Chixot and the Hunapu, but now they are getting a little old, and the new Guats are starting to come in. If you are a big fan of Ethiopian and Yemeni coffees, you might find them a little disappointing. I thought they were good because they were sweet, smooth and balanced, not because they were blockbuster fruit-bombs. I would describe them as elegant rather than exciting.

IMO, the best method for Bodhi Leaf is to buy a pound of each coffee that you want to try, then order in quantity the ones you liked best. If you look at their prices, they have the same price per pound for one pound as they do for twenty. If you follow any of their Ebay auctions, many of the coffees sell for about $4 a pound shipped (for 16 pounds.) It is worth it to me to pay for the small sample to be able to buy more with confidence, rather than depending on a description.
 
yantacaw
JimH wrote:

I find myself agreeing with you that SM and Burman seem to be converging a bit on price. Partly it's because Burman raised their prices less when the C market spiked, which I definitely appreciated. SM has gotten back to their pre-spike prices, and the price differential is more than made up for by their superior information.



thanks for the tips on bodhi leaf, jim. glad to know that someone shares my view on the pricing comps. i really like certain traditional coffee regions in south and central america as well. to that end, i enjoy, your classic big walnut flavor of a good columbian as a nice counterpoint to much of what is out there. the guats, too, are something i just can't get enough of in the summer. i have tended, in the past, to look to sweet marias for africans and indonesians and burman for my coffees of the americas. now that we're looking at perhaps only $1 difference per pound at the 5lb level, i may well go with sm entirely with a couple exceptions. i'm happy to say, in the end, that i really finally feel as though i am at a place where i really know what i like and what i don't care for enough to seek out. i also know that there are always outliers and i enjoy being surprised but its a wonderful overall feeling to get to that place. thanks again for the reply. it's helpful for me to keep these lines open.
 
ciel-007
I spend quite a bit of time experimenting with Blends (beans from different origins) in order to create roasts that are bursting with flavor, and have a notable finish. I also experiment with Melange Roasting (dropping into the cooling tray smoldering beans at varying BMTs) in order to produce Balance and Complexity in my pulls.

To date, I have not found a single origin bean (regardless of price) that can compare with a good Blend of reasonably priced beans that have been dropped as a Melange Roast. In my experience, Blending and Melange Roasting means that exceptional pulls can be consistently achieved with good beans obtained at low prices.

Over the past year, I had been successful in getting one local roaster to sell me good beans (of my choosing) for as little as $4.50 a lb. However, I have just bested that low price. A few weeks ago I received an email from Java Beans Plus advertising Brazilian No 18 beans for as little as $2.99/lb (including free shipping). Brazilian beans are a fundamental building block in by Blends (beans from 5 different origins in varying proportions). I am happy to report that those $2.99/lb Brazilian beans from Java Beans Plus compare quite favorably with a Brazilian roast that a local shop is currently selling for $16.99 /lb. Ciel
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